York, Guelph ban Canadian Forces from on-campus recruiting

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York, Guelph ban Canadian Forces from on-campus recruiting

Postby Blue Canadian » 11/ 10/ 05 4:31 pm

I can well understand why anyone would be reluctant, under this government, to serve in the Canadian Forces.

BUT IT SHOULD BE THEIR DECISION TO MAKE!

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York, Guelph drive off army
Guelph policy to ban Canadian Armed Forces from on-campus recruiting
By: Ian Denomme


With Remembrance Day on Friday, this is generally a time to honour Canadian war veterans, and take pride in the Canadian military. But two Ontario universities appear to be doing the opposite.

Last week at York University, a group of students confronted the Canadian Armed Forces (there to recruit students for jobs), driving them off campus. Meanwhile, the University of Guelph’s student council, the Central Student Association, is drafting a policy that would ban military recruiters from campus, as well as oppose any research done on campus that would benefit military organizations.

“We don’t think a university campus is the right venue for the military to be recruiting,” said CSA communications commissioner Hannah Draper. “We have a code of conduct around suppliers and which employers and recruiters we want on campus.”

The CSA’s “Policy Against the Militarization of Research” also says, ‘The CSA opposes military research and research on behalf of military organizations at Canadian universities. Research that benefits military-related organizations involved in, or closely tied to, war crimes will be opposed by and campaigned around by the CSA.’

However, Draper said there has not been any objection to Remembrance Day ceremonies, and the CSA will be participating in events on Friday.

York Federation of Students president Omari Mason said the students were not happy with military policies, and students should have a right to debate or challenge anything on campus, as long as it’s peaceful.

Here at Western, University Students’ Council president Ryan Dunn said the USC has no such policy and does not intend to implement one any time soon.

“We know that students are grown up enough to decide what they want to do with their futures,” he said. “Military recruitment just adds another life choice. It’s the same as any other corporation.”

The Canadian Armed Forces rely heavily on university recruiting because of a policy that new officers must be in a program leading to a degree.

“Because of increases in technology, and because the average soldier is more aware of current events than in the past, universities have become an important recruiting ground,” said Canadian Armed Forces Captain Scott Smith.

The Canadian Armed Forces have a display in the University Community Centre atrium today, but are not there to recruit.

“It’s mainly a commemoration of the year of the soldier, and their role in Canadian history,” Capt. Smith said. “Western really understands that role in history. In University College there is a long list of [Western students] who served in World War I.”

In light of what has taken place at York and Guelph and the contrasting views at Western, the question of the military’s role is often asked.

“The main focus of Canada’s Armed Forces is one: the security of Canada, and two: providing resources to assist the community of nations to improve stability around the world,” Capt. Smith said.

http://www.gazette.uwo.ca/article.cfm?s ... &year=2005
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Postby Derek » 11/ 10/ 05 4:36 pm

The CSA are comfy in their middle-class Canadian homes with mommy and daddy. Wait until the get out in the world and realize how wrong they are and what value the Canadian military can be to Canada and coutries abroad.

Oh well. It's only York and U of Goo. No big loss. :P

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Postby Canadaguy » 11/ 10/ 05 5:57 pm

Arnt those Universities PUBLIC institutions.

Dont they receive money from TAXES from the government.

As a taxpayer, I say its OK to be on Campus.

There are too many Hippie babies on these campuses.

When I went to college I was working and doing assigments.
I never had time to fight THE MAN.

Time for these kiddies to grow up and realize that there is mean evil persons outside the Campus and people actually risk their lives to defend the University freaks so theycanhave their freedom to DIS their own military.
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Postby Roy Wilson » 11/ 10/ 05 7:03 pm

Last week at York University, a group of students confronted the Canadian Armed Forces (there to recruit students for jobs), driving them off campus. Meanwhile, the University of Guelph’s student council, the Central Student Association, is drafting a policy that would ban military recruiters from campus, as well as oppose any research done on campus that would benefit military organizations.

“We don’t think a university campus is the right venue for the military to be recruiting,” said CSA communications commissioner Hannah Draper. “We have a code of conduct around suppliers and which employers and recruiters we want on campus.”


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Postby WestViking » 11/ 10/ 05 7:11 pm

This bid by the inmates to take over the asylum should be quashed without apology or discussion.

Unverities are public institution, heavily subsidized by tax dollars. When we decide, through the appropriate channels, that the armed forces are not welcome at universities, we will let it be known.

Until then there is no issue to concern ourselves with.
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Postby Roy Wilson » 11/ 10/ 05 7:28 pm

WestViking wrote:This bid by the inmates to take over the asylum should be quashed without apology or discussion.

Unverities are public institution, heavily subsidized by tax dollars. When we decide, through the appropriate channels, that the armed forces are not welcome at universities, we will let it be known.

Until then there is no issue to concern ourselves with.


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Postby khori_wan_kenobi » 11/ 10/ 05 8:42 pm

Nice way to honour our Vets this Rememberance Day....

“We don’t think a university campus is the right venue for the military to be recruiting,”


Is he implying that the army should only recruit "stupid uneducated lower class people?"
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Postby WestViking » 11/ 10/ 05 9:14 pm

khori_wan_kenobi wrote: Nice way to honour our Vets this Rememberance Day....

“We don’t think a university campus is the right venue for the military to be recruiting,”


Is he implying that the army should only recruit "stupid uneducated lower class people?"


It is not material what they claim to think until they earn their own way and can back their ideas with more than words.

Working towards a university degree does not indicate that a person is educated. That takes a whole lot more than sitting in a classroom. There people confuse schooling with an education.

Once they take their lessons out into the real world and try to apply them they will become educated. At present they are works in progress, not leaders or thinkers.
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Postby Rancher » 11/ 10/ 05 9:20 pm

York University's student government was in the hands of saner students for about a year (2004). That's when Yaakov Roth and Paul Cooper, two Conservative activists were able to rally sufficient students to win the government. Unfortunately, when they graduated, no one could step up to the plate and keep the momentum going.

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Postby RedDog » 11/ 10/ 05 9:23 pm

I expect the vast majority of the near illiterate raver welfare punks at York wouldn't qualify for the USAF program my nephew will be embarking on in a few months.

I suppose if your calling is to "aim low", you should remove all vestiges of what may threaten your self esteem or bring your contribution to question later.
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Postby Splendor Sine Occasu » 11/ 10/ 05 9:51 pm

Serving in the Reserves while going to university is a great way to learn some skills, get work experience, and earn some extra cash.

Not to mention, you get to fire fully automatic weapons and blow things up too. ;)
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