Toronto shooting leaves 2 dead, 19 injured

[WestViking]

http://www.globaltoronto.com/pages/media.aspx?id=6442680317&mediaID=10

Ambulances unloading - very interesting - tells us what the media does not disclose.

[RedDog]

Still no comments posting section at the CBC. We can now see why.

[Red Green]

Yet another flash mob robbery. Anyone want to guess as to whether the Amish were involved with this one?

http://www.kgw.com/news/Flash-mob-targe ... 63245.html

[Red Green]

And here we have the difference between white people with guns and black people:

http://www.gainesville.com/article/2012 ... ernet-Cafe

[RadicallyLiberal]

I went to High School in Scarborough and know that area pretty well, as friends lived there.

Even in the mid 1980s as a teenager, I was far more cautious in those Scarborough 'hoods than my beloved Beaches or The Danforth 'hoods.

[shiva]

And here we have the difference between white people with guns and black people:

http://www.gainesville.com/article/2012 ... ernet-Cafe

Yeah for Mr. Williams. That was a thing of beauty. White, black, green, orange, I don't care. The would-be robbers got what they deserved and if every armed thief knew there was a possibility of running into a Mr. Williams, maybe they'd stay home.

[Red Green]

And here we have the difference between white people with guns and black people:

http://www.gainesville.com/article/2012 ... ernet-Cafe

Yeah for Mr. Williams. That was a thing of beauty. White, black, green, orange, I don't care. The would-be robbers got what they deserved and if every armed thief knew there was a possibility of running into a Mr. Williams, maybe they'd stay home.

This incident is very illustrative of the effects of gun laws. Mr. Williams was packing a gun into the internet cafe because it was legal for him to do so. He it been illegal, Mr. Williams probably would have been unarmed because I bet he is a guy that mostly follows the rules. The two black thugs that came into the internet cafe with weapons didn't care about the law.

The people calling for yet more gun control in TO need to give this some consideration.

[The Islander]

And here we have the difference between white people with guns and black people:

http://www.gainesville.com/article/2012 ... ernet-Cafe

Yeah for Mr. Williams. That was a thing of beauty. White, black, green, orange, I don't care. The would-be robbers got what they deserved and if every armed thief knew there was a possibility of running into a Mr. Williams, maybe they'd stay home.

What I really liked about this story is the fact that it is deemed to be permissible for Mr. Williams to continue to fire while the perps were running away. I believe that in Can. once the perps turn their backs to the shooter they are no longer viewed as posing a danger and therefore all aggression by the intended victims should stop. It's as if the high and mighty can anticipate if a perp is going to wheel around again and pop some more shots off. They also refuse to accept the level of adrenaline and fear that can be in a citizen trying to defend themselves. I think the community should ban together and provide Mr. Williams with free target practise and ammo for life so that the can continue his "protect the people" activities and become more skilled with his aim.

[shiva]

And here we have the difference between white people with guns and black people:

http://www.gainesville.com/article/2012 ... ernet-Cafe

Yeah for Mr. Williams. That was a thing of beauty. White, black, green, orange, I don't care. The would-be robbers got what they deserved and if every armed thief knew there was a possibility of running into a Mr. Williams, maybe they'd stay home.

What I really liked about this story is the fact that it is deemed to be permissible for Mr. Williams to continue to fire while the perps were running away. I believe that in Can. once the perps turn their backs to the shooter they are no longer viewed as posing a danger and therefore all aggression by the intended victims should stop. It's as if the high and mighty can anticipate if a perp is going to wheel around again and pop some more shots off. They also refuse to accept the level of adrenaline and fear that can be in a citizen trying to defend themselves. I think the community should ban together and provide Mr. Williams with free target practise and ammo for life so that the can continue his "protect the people" activities and become more skilled with his aim.

Good point about the adrenaline and fear, which is of course exactly what the lefties and bleeding hearts believe it's up to them to control by denying everyone guns. Everyone but criminals is the part they forget. And of course they never consider that thieves and bullies are the very ones who should consider what they might unleash should they decide to use force or violence to steal from others.

[RedDog]

Correction to my previous post. The CBC are playing their games again merging stories and rewriting headlines. There IS a comment section now. I suppose there was too much video and photo coverage out there to shovel under and they have to pretend to be a news information source again.

[Angleland]

Hate to sound like a geezer but what was an infant doing at a party at 11 PM?

Also, most people still have parties on weekends. Am I to assume that many of the party goers have a lot of laying arounfd time available during the week while most people still work?

Of course public housing appears to be involved. Don't give people shelter allowances so they can live where they choose. Gather them all into cement hornets nests and hope for the best. Yeah that's worked out well.

[Edward Kennedy]

.380 is kinda light and head shots would be required to drop a criminal with that caliber.

[CrunchyCon]

I think we need a federal Torontonian registry. All GTA residents should be required to register and undergo fingerprinting before being allowed outside of the GTA. This will help make streets safer in the Rest of Canada.

[WestViking]

.380 is kinda light and head shots would be required to drop a criminal with that calibre.

The idea is to stop a criminal, not kill him. A .38 used within a reasonable range has proven to be effective in most cases. It is best to aim for the centre of mass rather than try to get fancy and aim for the head and miss. Any shot to the torso will give a perpetrator something to consider and last second prayers for forgiveness would be in order.

[Red Green]

.380 is kinda light and head shots would be required to drop a criminal with that calibre.

The idea is to stop a criminal, not kill him. A .38 used within a reasonable range has proven to be effective in most cases. It is best to aim for the centre of mass rather than try to get fancy and aim for the head and miss. Any shot to the torso will give a perpetrator something to consider and last second prayers for forgiveness would be in order.

In this case it was a .380, not a .38.

Anyway, the reality was that these two fools, thinking themselves being better armed than the cafe patrons, had no problem trying to hold up what looked to be at least 20 people and once they realized that one 70 YO guy was determined to put a few holes in them, they fled like their life depended on it (and it probably did).

According the the study done by that University of Florida criminologist the vast majority of the time a gun is used to stop a crime in process, it does so without even being fired. Just the presence of a gun is usually enough to send crooks scattering.