Bill C-30: The Canadian spying bill is not dead

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Bill C-30: The Canadian spying bill is not dead

Postby styky » 06/ 10/ 12 8:42 pm

Bill C-30: The Canadian spying bill is not dead

June 9, 2012. 4:07 pm • Section: Technology
Bill C-30 is still alive and well, according to the pro Internet group Open Media.

In February the bill caused a public uproar and was then sent to the Committee on Justice and Human Rights to be amended before a second reading.

It hasn’t been heard from since. But that doesn’t mean the bill, which the Province dubbed the “Spying on Every Single Canadian any Time We Feel Like it Act,” won’t resurface.................http://blogs.canada.com/2012/06/09/bill ... -not-dead/
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Re: Bill C-30: The Canadian spying bill is not dead

Postby WestViking » 06/ 10/ 12 11:28 pm

Bill C-30 has not gone anywhere since first reading in February. It has not been referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights (JUST). I have been watching for any movement on this Bill as it is completely unacceptable and as far as I am concenred is so bad it cannot be amended to make it accpetable.
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Re: Bill C-30: The Canadian spying bill is not dead

Postby Soulforger » 06/ 10/ 12 11:50 pm

WestViking wrote:Bill C-30 has not gone anywhere since first reading in February. It has not been referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights (JUST). I have been watching for any movement on this Bill as it is completely unacceptable and as far as I am concenred is so bad it cannot be amended to make it accpetable.


Dog crap with a red bow is just crap with a red bow... :D I don't see how this bill can be fixed.
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Re: Bill C-30: The Canadian spying bill is not dead

Postby WestViking » 06/ 11/ 12 10:12 am

We spend billions of dollars every year on rehabilitating career criminals. We are so certain of our ability to turn people who consider fines and occasional stints in jail or prison somewhere between as 'cost of business' and a 'temporary nuisance' that we have written a commitment to rehabilitation into our laws. Our criminal justice system is broken and the people in charge are certifiably insane.

The Corrections and Conditional Release Act, which was going to revolutionized the criminal justice system in Canada was passed into law in 1992. Twenty years later, the inmates are running our jails and prisons and our recidivism rates are kept low by manipulating the figures. Reported crime is down as no one has any faith left in our criminal coddling system. Justice for the victims of crime is on vacation. Punishment for the commission of crimes has left town. Jails and prisons provide amenities superior to those most convicted criminals enjoy while they are not incarcerated.

Our Public Safety Minister and Justice Minister respond to our complaints by submitting Bill C-30 in Parliament which will give every police agency and peace officer unlimited powers to snoop into the affairs of law-abiding citizens without cause or warrant. Not only that, but they are demanding that we spend millions in public funds to create the means for making their snooping possible and subsidize their snoop system through annual millions in higher fees from our service providers. Giving these miscreants expanded power is the equivalent of filling the water tanks in our fire trucks with gasoline.
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Re: Bill C-30: The Canadian spying bill is not dead

Postby styky » 06/ 11/ 12 6:14 pm

Well gosh this has certainly happened at a convenient time :-k

Computer equipment firms seen as potential cyber threat to federal ...

Toronto Star -
OTTAWA—The government fears nefarious firms seeking to sell computer hardware for a massive network overhaul could leave Canada ...linked thru google
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Re: Bill C-30: The Canadian spying bill is not dead

Postby LAR » 08/ 24/ 12 11:52 pm

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Re: Bill C-30: The Canadian spying bill is not dead

Postby styky » 10/ 03/ 12 8:25 pm

Online spying bill C-30 threatens Canada's national security
Lindsey Pinto
Posted: Oct 2nd, 2012
An access-to-information request from The Globe and Mail has revealed that Canada’s Communications Security Establishment has concerns about our nation’s network security. Specifically, the documents show that Huawei Technologies—a Chinese company that has become the world’s leading maker of telecom equipment—has been the subject of national security concerns.....................http://www.vancouverobserver.com/world/ ... l-security
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Re: Bill C-30: The Canadian spying bill is not dead

Postby LAR » 10/ 27/ 12 5:53 am

Police need new internet surveillance tools, say chiefs
Bill C-30 would give police access to internet communications without a warrant
The Canadian Association of Police Chiefs is calling on the federal government to pass its controversial internet surveillance bill so police can fight cybercrime more effectively.

Association president and Vancouver police Chief Jim Chu says he is concerned Bill C-30 will die on the order paper, meaning officers investigating criminal activity on cellphones and the internet will still have to get a warrant every time they want to intercept communications by cybercriminals.

"Law enforcement continues to be handcuffed by legislation introduced in 1975, the days of the rotary telephone," said Chu on Friday morning in Vancouver.

Section 34 of the bill essentially would give any government appointed agents, who may or may not be a police or intelligence officer, the right to access and copy any information and documentation collected by internet providers and telecommunications companies, without the need for a warrant, judicial oversight or even a criminal investigation.

It would also require those communications companies to install the surveillance technology and software necessary to enable them to monitor and gather phone and internet traffic for the government.


The police have an aversion to showing a reason before they monitor our communication.
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Re: Bill C-30: The Canadian spying bill is not dead

Postby Angleland » 10/ 27/ 12 6:07 pm

Like Obamacare, from which US House Reps and Senators are exempt, the Cop Spying Bill also exempts our elected reps. How convenient.

As for the cops, increasing rotten the higher up one goes. Should have known from some of the slugs encountered in Reeeform years ago.
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Re: Bill C-30: The Canadian spying bill is not dead

Postby WestViking » 10/ 27/ 12 10:34 pm

Angleland wrote:Like Obamacare, from which US House Reps and Senators are exempt, the Cop Spying Bill also exempts our elected reps. How convenient.

As for the cops, increasing rotten the higher up one goes. Should have known from some of the slugs encountered in Reeeform years ago.
Where is the evidence that elected representatives are exempt?
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Re: Bill C-30: The Canadian spying bill is not dead

Postby styky » 10/ 28/ 12 8:26 pm

He said police already have the powers they need to get information, and noted the bill would allow police to access very personal information on a computer, including medical information.

"There's no need for police to have the warrantless powers they seek. It takes a matter of hours for them to get a warrant," Eby said.

"Our concern is the police asking for new powers to access (a person's) private Internet browsing history without a warrant. We believe a warrant is a minimal safeguard that's essential to protecting (a person's) privacy on the Internet." Chu said police are using laws written in 1975, when everyone had a rotary phone and telephone directories had almost everyone's names in them.

"If a suspect lures a child using a landline, basic subscriber information is available in a phone directory," Chu said.

"But predators don't use old technology. The parent of a child who has been lured over the Internet will be told that the police search for their child is delayed because a warrant has to be obtained for basic subscriber information."


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Re: Bill C-30: The Canadian spying bill is not dead

Postby styky » 10/ 28/ 12 8:28 pm

Privacy complaints up 39%, says privacy commissioner
Jennifer Stoddart

The Canadian Press
Published Friday, Oct. 5, 2012 7:52AM EDT

OTTAWA -- An RCMP and House of Commons security proposal to more than double the number of video cameras on Parliament Hill, without warning the public it's being watched, alarms the privacy commissioner, who says it's an ironic symbol of how pervasive government surveillance is becoming.

The plan, part of a massive security overhaul, combined with the Harper government's hotly debated Internet surveillance legislation contributes to a growing sense of unease among Canadians, Jennifer Stoddart said Thursday.

The privacy commissioner's office saw a spike in complaints and an increase in data breaches at federal departments and institutions last year, according to Stoddart's annual report.

She said she's skeptical about the massive use of video surveillance, but her report underscores not only privacy but democratic concerns.

"We were concerned about the scope of the project and its potential impact on the privacy rights of parliamentarians, parliamentary staff, guests and visitors to Parliament Hill, and of those engaging in peaceful protests and assemblies," said the report.

"According to the preliminary (privacy impact assessment) a deliberate decision was made to not post signs notifying individuals of video surveillance on Parliament Hill."

There are already 50 cameras operating on the roofs of the Parliament Buildings, but security officials are proposing to install an additional 134 video cameras over the next three years and to monitor them on 24/7 basis.

"Any of these massive surveillance programs are a real infringement on citizens' rights and have not necessarily proven their worth," Stoddart said in an interview.

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