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WildRose Would Allow "No Blacks Allowed" Signs

Postby Maikeru » 04/ 25/ 12 9:37 pm

In the runup to the Alberta Election, Michael J. Murphy, aka BigCityLib, posted a thread subtitled:
WildRose Would Allow "No Blacks Allowed" Signs, which was then disseminated to Liblogs, ProgressiveBloggers, The Wellington St Post, and other mirror sites.

It referenced an article penned by U. of Calgary associate law professor Jennifer Koshan, entitled:
Wildrose’s human rights platform should get vigorous debate
In that article Professor Koshan opined:
First, the Wildrose states that it would repeal s. 3 of the AHRA.
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Human rights legislation has historically been seen as remedial rather than punitive.
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Wildrose’s second key reform would “Replace the Human Rights Commission with a new Human Rights Division of the Provincial Court of Alberta, which will adjudicate all human rights complaints.” This is presumably in response to the Wildrose’s “kangaroo court” and “political correctness” allegations.
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The Wildrose proposal would seem to do away with both the commission and tribunals, with nothing in their place to deal with human rights research and education.
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Would the Wildrose institute judicial education in human rights as part of its overhaul of the system?
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Could Wildrose really maintain the same level of resources for adjudicating human rights complaints in a cost-neutral way, given that Provincial Court judges are likely higher paid than tribunal members, and it would be adding the cost of advocates as well?
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The platform also provides that costs could be ordered against unsuccessful respondents or complainants, including costs to/against the government if a complainant is represented by an advocate.

This approach departs from that taken in Boissoin, where the respondent Stephen Boissoin (who was successful in arguing that his conduct did not amount to a violation of s. 3(1)(b)) was not granted costs, given the public interest aspect of Darren Lund’s claim.
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there would no longer be judicial review of human rights tribunal decisions according to the principles of administrative law, but an appeal process dictated by, one assumes, the normal standards of review for Provincial Court decisions. This may mean less deference to human rights decision-makers and more appeals.
Certainly there are a number of points there to debate in a classroom environment, but Ms. Koshan seems blithely unaware, or worse, uncaring, of the actual impact that heavy-handed 'human rights' activism has had on 'Respondents' such as Stephen Boisson.

Professor Koshan can be seen and heard on this Youtube clip entitled When is state interference justified to advance gender equality - 3 of 5 which gives additional insight into her mindset and values.
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Re: WildRose Would Allow "No Blacks Allowed" Signs

Postby Lee Enfield » 04/ 25/ 12 9:56 pm

Scaremongering.

Wildrose could not override the Canadian Charter of Rights.
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Re: WildRose Would Allow "No Blacks Allowed" Signs

Postby Red Green » 04/ 25/ 12 9:58 pm

Red Green endorses allowing "No Blacks Allowed" signs.
"The only freedom which deserves the name is that of pursuing our own good in our own way, so long as we do not attempt to deprive others of theirs, or impede their efforts to obtain it. Each is the proper guardian of his own health, whether bodily, or mental or spiritual. Mankind are greater gainers by suffering each other to live as seems good to themselves, than by compelling each to live as seems good to the rest." ~ John Stuart Mill
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Re: WildRose Would Allow "No Blacks Allowed" Signs

Postby Ben Kenobi » 04/ 25/ 12 10:14 pm

I'd love to see 'no blacks allowed', and 'no whites allowed'. :D

True freedom of association? :lol: :lol: In Canada? Never happen.
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Re: WildRose Would Allow "No Blacks Allowed" Signs

Postby Hailey » 04/ 25/ 12 10:21 pm

I don't think that is even funny to joke about in terms of being a good idea. It's a horrific idea.

It is, however, something really outlandish to believe would happen under WR.
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Re: WildRose Would Allow "No Blacks Allowed" Signs

Postby Red Green » 04/ 25/ 12 11:44 pm

Hailey wrote:I don't think that is even funny to joke about in terms of being a good idea. It's a horrific idea.

It is, however, something really outlandish to believe would happen under WR.


I'm serious Hailey. I don't think anyone should be forced to associate with anyone they don't want to regardless of the reason.
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Re: WildRose Would Allow "No Blacks Allowed" Signs

Postby Ben Kenobi » 04/ 26/ 12 12:55 am

It's a horrific idea.


Why? If people want to put up a 'no honkies sign', that's fine by me. Go right ahead.
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Postby troubleinutopia » 04/ 26/ 12 2:39 am

There was an ad for a rental property in richmond bc that stated, "chinese only."
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Re: WildRose Would Allow "No Blacks Allowed" Signs

Postby Edward Kennedy » 04/ 26/ 12 7:48 am

"Professor Koshan can be seen and heard on this Youtube clip entitled When is state interference justified to advance gender equality - 3 of 5 which gives additional insight into her mindset and values."


I find this individual to be a twisted malignant mess drunk on kool aid. No wonder academia is a moral bankrupt entity. She is just another useful idiot, a "fool tool" so to speak of the system and the social engineers.

It was reported that Castro, when he came to power, used a yardstick to indict people he would target for execution, and that yardstick was whether or not the individual had callouses or not on their hands. If there was any doubt about the person, if they had no callouses they were executed. :-k

Problem of course is that useful and critically necessary people in any society are doctors, engineers, etc. May good people were killed, but it would sure weed out the bureaucrats and lieberals if that rule was applied in western nations. :-k

As to the lieberal lying bloggers, they are worse.

They are foolish in their pseudo security thinking they will never have to be held responsible for their lies, defamation, and dishonesty. The sword of Damocles dangles above their heads, unseen by them but still very real. Alas, ignorance is a voluntary misfortune. :-k
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Re: WildRose Would Allow "No Blacks Allowed" Signs

Postby Edward Kennedy » 04/ 26/ 12 7:57 am

Red Green wrote:
Hailey wrote:I don't think that is even funny to joke about in terms of being a good idea. It's a horrific idea.

It is, however, something really outlandish to believe would happen under WR.


I'm serious Hailey. I don't think anyone should be forced to associate with anyone they don't want to regardless of the reason.



How dare you say such a thing, don't you know that freedom is a vanishing entity and you must bow to the god of political correctness. Just wrap your lips around that rear teat of the politically correct sacred cow of lieberalism and suck the kool aid like everyone else. :D
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Re: WildRose Would Allow "No Blacks Allowed" Signs

Postby Connie Fournier » 04/ 26/ 12 8:18 am

So stupid. Putting up a sign like that would spell the end for any Canadian business. Suggesting that Canadians are on the verge of turning into hate-filled racists and the only thing holding us back is the government is highly insulting. Canadians are better than that.
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Re: WildRose Would Allow "No Blacks Allowed" Signs

Postby Edward Kennedy » 04/ 26/ 12 8:27 am

Connie Fournier wrote:So stupid. Putting up a sign like that would spell the end for any Canadian business. Suggesting that Canadians are on the verge of turning into hate-filled racists and the only thing holding us back is the government is highly insulting. Canadians are better than that.



...but the damned system/government/lieberals are not. Proof?

Affirmative action racist programs imposed by bigots that mandate hiring on the basis of race, and bilingual hiring practices imposed by racists.

Undeniabe proof of the latter is tthe push to choose/hire judges, nurses etc on the bais NOT OF COMPETENCY but whether or not they can speak francoPHONEY.

I was at the house of a client on Saturday and his two adorable litle girls spoke Slovakian...I have clients whose children speak Serbian, and others whose clients speak various dialects of Chinese and All OF THESE Are AS GOOD as those who are bilingual English/francoPHONEY.
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Re: WildRose Would Allow "No Blacks Allowed" Signs

Postby Edward Kennedy » 04/ 26/ 12 8:41 am

As to the dimwits who responded to the verbal diahrhea of turdcity lieberal's rant, this made me laugh hysterically.


"brennerman said...

They remind me too much of those rightwing bloggers who use their blogs as a bully pulpit to demonize and intimidate everyone and everything they don't like.

I've had enough of such people and I think many others feel very much the same. "
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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Gee, he could be talking about turdcitylieberal.


Wonder why this fool does not see the real bullies, liars and cowards are the lefturds who run the blogs he frequents? How about ara/arc operative jason who stalks/harasses/bullies innocent women? How about the dregs of the arc/ara who attacked three youths several years ago and outnumbered them six to one? These ara/arc cowards and racists were armed with steel pipes but they still got their sorry asses kicked. Ignorance is once again a voluntary mosfortune for this useful idiot. If he wants to discuss this face to face he can come visit me. I do not hide behind a computer. Cowards.

This indivdual is yet another cowierdo who posts silly lieberal hypocritical drivel behind a false identity, one would think if he/she wants to accuse/criticize, he/she would have the gonads to do so with a real identity behind the words.

Typical lieberal. :barf:

Like them all, he expects to be able to scare all those off who do not suck the left rear teat of political correctness like he does and takes offense when others reject his tainted kool aid. Fool.
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Re: WildRose Would Allow "No Blacks Allowed" Signs

Postby Connie Fournier » 04/ 26/ 12 8:43 am

Racism, in any form, is stupid. Every single one of us alive today came from one single male/female couple, and even evolutionary scientists are saying that. We are one race, the human race.

If someone had a store with a sign that said "No Blacks Allowed", I wouldn't go there. I wouldn't need the government to tell me not to, and neither would 99% of my fellow Canadians. The idea that the government has to force us to respect one another is a lie designed to scare us into surrendering our rights.
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Re: WildRose Would Allow "No Blacks Allowed" Signs

Postby Edward Kennedy » 04/ 26/ 12 9:11 am

Connie Fournier wrote:Racism, in any form, is stupid. Every single one of us alive today came from one single male/female couple, and even evolutionary scientists are saying that. We are one race, the human race.

If someone had a store with a sign that said "No Blacks Allowed", I wouldn't go there. I wouldn't need the government to tell me not to, and neither would 99% of my fellow Canadians. The idea that the government has to force us to respect one another is a lie designed to scare us into surrendering our rights.


For sure on the underlined part.

I have traced scriptures on the origination of the races and there are questions raised therein...however, you realize that the base elements of ANY race can be defined by their being lieberals.

Thus I/you/we have more in common with and accept any individual that is Conservative as opposed to anyone who is LIEBERAL regardless of racial identity.

I have known radical black people who were Conservative and were more acceptable than white slag libeberals.

I have identified the problem chronic, as caused by lieberals and lieberalism, and it is a moral problem, ergo, lieberalism and lieberals=corruption and immorality.

Any problems in ANY race caused by that race can be defined by whether or not the indivuals are lieberals or not.

Example? Walter Williams as opposed to al the pal sharpton.

Were lieberalism/socialism/communism erased, we would have many many fewer problems in ANY nation.

Thus the problem is not white, black, red, yellow, or of any except whether or not the afore mentioned have drunk the kool aid at which point they become serious problems, becoming the "fooltools" of lieberalism.

Whodda thought turdcitylieberal would have grown from an innocent child to a pasty faced lieberal who embraces all that is wrong and opposes all that is right as do most liberals. :D
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