Nova Scotia Student Suspended For Jesus Shirt

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Re: Nova Scotia Student Suspended For Jesus Shirt

Postby mindyrbusiness » 05/ 05/ 12 10:44 am

It says something when a person can be so offended by a child wearing a t shirt containing a message of someone and something good while idolizing those who lived and died in a destructive lifestyle and encouraged others to follow him.
I don't want to pick on Small Liberal but I noticed his avatar pictures the late Jerry Garcia of the band The Grateful Dead.The Dead's fans frequently known as "deadheads" idolize Jerry and the band for their famous drug lifestyle and songs such as "Truckin" and "Casey Jones" with lyrics such as "driving that train, high on cocaine"

While we know this an adult site but think about the many t-shirts sold and worn effectively endorsing famous people living or dead that either have or had similar destructive lifestyles.
I know this issue has now been resolved but perhaps the only way prevent similar recurrences is to bring back mandatory dress codes and/or uniforms for teachers and students,with absolutely no endorsements of anything.
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Re: Nova Scotia Student Suspended For Jesus Shirt

Postby WestViking » 05/ 05/ 12 11:30 am

mindyrbusiness wrote: While we know this an adult site but think about the many t-shirts sold and worn effectively endorsing famous people living or dead that either have or had similar destructive lifestyles.

Sorry mindy, but we try to maintain a 'family rating' standard.
mindyrbusiness wrote: I know this issue has now been resolved but perhaps the only way prevent similar recurrences is to bring back mandatory dress codes and/or uniforms for teachers and students,with absolutely no endorsements of anything.
When we allow ourselves to be governed by the perceptions and sensibilities of others we are no more than slaves to political correctness. We will have given up our rights and freedoms to appease whoever decides that they are offended by something. No one has the right to be protected from feeling offended. We need to say so, clearly and loudly.
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Re: Nova Scotia Student Suspended For Jesus Shirt

Postby Julian » 05/ 05/ 12 11:45 am

The lad is entitled to his beilef and his opinion.

Education has become the epitome of intolerance ever since the feminasties and the leftards have become the establishment.
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Re: Nova Scotia Student Suspended For Jesus Shirt

Postby Edward Kennedy » 05/ 05/ 12 12:24 pm

Hailey wrote:I actually do care that someone is offended and I would hope that if my child wore that t-shirt and knew someone was offended they would talk to them about it. I WOULD want to know someone was hurt so it could be reconciled. I would not ask that they remove the t-shirt and I wouldn't ask for an atheist shirt to be removed.



I am not being smart with you but I need to illustrate in a way you personally undestand.

Would you care if someone told you they were offended by the way you dressed your children, or what color car you bought,or what kind of flowers you planted on your lawn, etc etc etc

Would you try to accommodate those selfish idiotic bullies? I hope not.
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Re: Nova Scotia Student Suspended For Jesus Shirt

Postby politics101 » 05/ 05/ 12 1:30 pm

I don't care for this kids message anymore than I'm interested in what a radical atheist has to say. Nevertheless, both should be free and able to express their views without reprimand. As is the case with the TTC Ads, there has to be a certain level of consistency in how the rules are enforced.
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Re: Nova Scotia Student Suspended For Jesus Shirt

Postby Hailey » 05/ 05/ 12 1:47 pm

Edward Kennedy wrote:
Hailey wrote:I actually do care that someone is offended and I would hope that if my child wore that t-shirt and knew someone was offended they would talk to them about it. I WOULD want to know someone was hurt so it could be reconciled. I would not ask that they remove the t-shirt and I wouldn't ask for an atheist shirt to be removed.



I am not being smart with you but I need to illustrate in a way you personally undestand.

Would you care if someone told you they were offended by the way you dressed your children, or what color car you bought,or what kind of flowers you planted on your lawn, etc etc etc

Would you try to accommodate those selfish idiotic bullies? I hope not.


I get your point and it's not a wrong way of looking at it but I guess I am presuming that the person isn't a confrontational bully but a human being having a conversation with me that's a bit more positive. I have worn controversial things and people have commented . If someone is effected by it but polite I'll talk to them.
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Re: Nova Scotia Student Suspended For Jesus Shirt

Postby Edward Kennedy » 05/ 05/ 12 3:02 pm

Hailey wrote:
Edward Kennedy wrote:
Hailey wrote:I actually do care that someone is offended and I would hope that if my child wore that t-shirt and knew someone was offended they would talk to them about it. I WOULD want to know someone was hurt so it could be reconciled. I would not ask that they remove the t-shirt and I wouldn't ask for an atheist shirt to be removed.



I am not being smart with you but I need to illustrate in a way you personally undestand.

Would you care if someone told you they were offended by the way you dressed your children, or what color car you bought,or what kind of flowers you planted on your lawn, etc etc etc

Would you try to accommodate those selfish idiotic bullies? I hope not.


I get your point and it's not a wrong way of looking at it but I guess I am presuming that the person isn't a confrontational bully but a human being having a conversation with me that's a bit more positive. I have worn controversial things and people have commented . If someone is effected by it but polite I'll talk to them.



As rough and coarse and confrontational as I am, I would never even think about telling someone of my opinions if I disapproved of how they dressed, most especially a woman. I can and will make general comments about such things but a lot of personal decisions people make are nobody else's business but theirs. There can be no polite or appropriate way to be a bully and a hurtful brute towards people who are innocent, especially women. BTW, I would not even do such a thing a radfem lefturd!

A woman's choice of dress is hers to make. A criticism of that is a criticism of her, and would hurt tender feelings. Even a woman of what we would call low estate has feelings and had a mother who loved/loves her although that cannot be presumed anymore.
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Re: Nova Scotia Student Suspended For Jesus Shirt

Postby free_life2 » 05/ 05/ 12 3:20 pm

Hailey wrote:I actually do care that someone is offended and I would hope that if my child wore that t-shirt and knew someone was offended they would talk to them about it. I WOULD want to know someone was hurt so it could be reconciled. I would not ask that they remove the t-shirt and I wouldn't ask for an atheist shirt to be removed.


He was talking to offended people by wearing the T shirt.

Do you realize how many people are going to be offended if you wore that shirt? Are you going to talk to all of them?

This offense posturing is a con of the leftists in their social engineering agenda to get what they want. It is complete bs....yea a Jesus shirt offends someone...give me a break!
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Re: Nova Scotia Student Suspended For Jesus Shirt

Postby FiscalConservative » 05/ 05/ 12 5:13 pm

Edward Kennedy wrote:Gee, what a bad guy, no earrings, no tattoos, no obscene messages on his shirt, or freaky crap group and their hostile violent mysogynistic tripe.

Charge him with being politically incorrect and seekm the death penalty.


Yeah, wouldn't want him listening to Sabbath or Zeppelin.
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Re: Nova Scotia Student Suspended For Jesus Shirt

Postby Edward Kennedy » 05/ 05/ 12 5:36 pm

FiscalConservative wrote:
Edward Kennedy wrote:Gee, what a bad guy, no earrings, no tattoos, no obscene messages on his shirt, or freaky crap group and their hostile violent mysogynistic tripe.

Charge him with being politically incorrect and seekm the death penalty.


Yeah, wouldn't want him listening to Sabbath or Zeppelin.



...he is too smart to waste his time/money listening to such garbage so do not worry
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Re: Nova Scotia Student Suspended For Jesus Shirt

Postby FiscalConservative » 05/ 05/ 12 6:49 pm

Edward Kennedy wrote:
FiscalConservative wrote:
Edward Kennedy wrote:Gee, what a bad guy, no earrings, no tattoos, no obscene messages on his shirt, or freaky crap group and their hostile violent mysogynistic tripe.

Charge him with being politically incorrect and seekm the death penalty.


Yeah, wouldn't want him listening to Sabbath or Zeppelin.



...he is too smart to waste his time/money listening to such garbage so do not worry


Odd coming from someone who's avatar is himself reclining on a motorbike. Or are you saying you look like a troublemaker in your avatar but you renounced all that and are now righteous?
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Re: Nova Scotia Student Suspended For Jesus Shirt

Postby Edward Kennedy » 05/ 05/ 12 10:35 pm

FiscalConservative wrote:
Edward Kennedy wrote:
FiscalConservative wrote:
Edward Kennedy wrote:Gee, what a bad guy, no earrings, no tattoos, no obscene messages on his shirt, or freaky crap group and their hostile violent mysogynistic tripe.

Charge him with being politically incorrect and seekm the death penalty.


Yeah, wouldn't want him listening to Sabbath or Zeppelin.



...he is too smart to waste his time/money listening to such garbage so do not worry


Odd coming from someone who's avatar is himself reclining on a motorbike. Or are you saying you look like a troublemaker in your avatar but you renounced all that and are now righteous?


I do not ever understand where you come from, the reason why, if you want a go with me, or what your comments are all about but I will hold back the feelings I have about you that you are looking for trouble and give you an honest answer.

Honestly, I took/take after my grandpa on mom's side, he never looked for trouble but as I was told by the locals there, he never ran from it. That pic is me at age 26 and I was not/am not pleased at some of the things I did at that time. The cycle is mine, bought new, what I call a 74-74...a 1974 HD 74 cubic inch Night Train, a 1200 cc stripped with no bags, etc. Some of my friends were not savory characters and today I would not associate with same. Some went on to commit serious crimes, others are dead, others did fine, in fact, better than I.

No I am not righteous, but I developed a hatred of injustice and tyranny, which I have to this day. I will have it to the day I die. There are times when I struggle to do what is right, but what I have seen in my life is a general deterioration of society and I despise the cause of all that which I identify as a drift to dialetic secular humanism(lieberalism).

Exacerbating those feelings, I hate bullies with a passion, a deep passion, almost as much as I hate liars and I see many lieberals in that number, some of who run liberal blogs, who demonstrate they are fools in thinking they can and will be able with impunity to get away with what they have done. How stupid and short sighted they be.

It is all fun and games until the tigers behind the strong bars they have tormented get free and wreak destruction on them. Their day is coming. I have seen some terrible things, made more terrible by the justified hatred and anger of some who were mistreated and lived to set the record straight.

There is a song:

Don't try to win before you lose
You gotta walk the road you choose
You gotta die before you live
You gotta TAKE BACK WHAT YOU GIVE.

It has a strong message and it is an experential message to some people who have lived in the real world. However, legends in their own minds tend to think that urinating into the wind will not see them contaminate themselves with their own urine, and are unaware of that until they feel their pantleg wet against their leg.

Life can be and is a struggle with some people, and lieberal fools think they are untouchable in their antics against innocent people.

In the end, the devil does get his dues and when it happens it is not pretty. I think I have said more than enough on this.
I also think the message is clear, for what a fool has started cannot end ever on the fool's own terms. I think we all know who the fools, liars, and miscreants are in society, and danger is often a commodity one gathers unto oneself. :-k

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Please let me know if I said something that offended you. I may want to offend you again sometime.
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Re: Nova Scotia Student Suspended For Jesus Shirt

Postby styky » 05/ 07/ 12 10:39 am

Parents pull Jesus shirt teen from school

By QMI Agency

Last Updated: May 7, 2012 10:50am
Nova Scotia teenager who made international headlines after getting suspended from school for wearing a T-shirt with a Christian message showed up early Monday with his parents and quit the school.

William Swinimer, a Grade 12 student at Forest Heights Community School in Chester Basin, N.S., was suspended last Monday for repeatedly wearing to class a bright yellow T-shirt with the slogan: "Life is wasted without Jesus."

On Friday, the suspension was reversed and he was expected to resume classes this week, wearing the shirt. The school had planned to hold a special talk about religious freedoms.

But instead, he turned up early with his parents and quit.

"William will no longer be attending this school. He will be furthering his education outside this school," his pastor, Varrick Day, said.

According to district superintendant Nancy Pinch-Worthylake, the move came as a surprise.

"We are very disappointed he is not in school today. We were hoping he would be part of these conversations," she said, referring to the school's planned discussions about the balance between religious freedom and students' rights to not have their beliefs criticized.

Leading up to the suspension, the school's principal had repeatedly asked Swinimer to stop sporting the shirt, which he said was dismissive of other students' beliefs, but the school board said the boy was "defiant."

— With files from Allen Rollin
http://www.lfpress.com/news/canada/2012 ... 26146.html
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Re: Nova Scotia Student Suspended For Jesus Shirt

Postby WestViking » 05/ 07/ 12 11:01 am

Leading up to the suspension, the school's principal had repeatedly asked Swinimer to stop sporting the shirt, which he said was dismissive of other students' beliefs, but the school board said the boy was "defiant."
A flippin' T-shirt is "dismissive of student's beliefs"? What the heck is this person smoking? This is PC gone wrong again. The principal is dismissive of Swinimer's beliefs but the principal only points the way to his view of morality; he never goes there.
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Re: Nova Scotia Student Suspended For Jesus Shirt

Postby The Devil's Advocate » 05/ 07/ 12 11:45 am

WestViking wrote:
Leading up to the suspension, the school's principal had repeatedly asked Swinimer to stop sporting the shirt, which he said was dismissive of other students' beliefs, but the school board said the boy was "defiant."
A flippin' T-shirt is "dismissive of student's beliefs"? What the heck is this person smoking? This is PC gone wrong again. The principal is dismissive of Swinimer's beliefs but the principal only points the way to his view of morality; he never goes there.


I wouldn't think the principals beliefs either way matter for too much, he's there to do a job, and that job isn't to foist his views upon anyone. Remember it was students and teachers who initially made the complaints, not the principal.

As for the preacher-in-training, his actions really don't surprise me, and right or wrong he's really only re-enforced a message, and probably not the one he intended -- namely that he had no business being there in the first place. Someone of such firm . . .principles will never be comfortable with the chaos that comes from mixing with the unwashed masses. Better to stick with people assured of meeting such high and pure standards. Homeschooling perhaps?
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