The War Is On: Obama’s Gestapo Arrest Catholic Priest For Pr

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Re: The War Is On: Obama’s Gestapo Arrest Catholic Priest Fo

Postby free_life2 » 02/ 20/ 12 4:59 pm

This thread has been totally hijacked now with those debating the original hijacker about the sexual abuse that some Priests have committed which has as much relevance to the original subject of this thread as a debate of whether the pavement they knelt on should have been made from concrete or asphalt.

Read the title...read the article....

About the "war" "Obama" "Gestapo" "arrest" "Catholic Priest" "Praying" "outside" "White House"

There is no suggestion that anyone praying there has ever sexually abused anyone. Smallliberal has successfully hijacked this thread and turned the discussion to his perceived wrongs of the Catholic Church and has repeatedly thrown out falsehoods as if they were facts to inflame those he is bigoted about and against, Jesus Christ and His people. He is a porn pervert and he thinks he can judge the morality of others, his foundation is sand! The hypocrite is pointing his finger at others and calling them what in fact he is. Smallib hijacks threads a lot to redirect the discussion away from the stuff the left does, in particular Obama who he seems to be enamored with. He is very good at redirecting the discussion where he wants but we have a remedy for that. You hearing me Smallib? I am done warning you and save your excuses why you hijack threads, I am not buying!

This event is meaningful, as it is about the left's continued attempts to deny people their constitutional rights and their attack on all things belonging to Jesus Christ. This a political and spiritual battle but Smalllib wants to make it about something else, not why they were protesting (praying) and about Obama's dismantling of Americans values that differ from his own.

This is also a family site and the language used by a few here is a violation of FD policy. If you can't express yourself without filthy language and sexual perversity it clearly reflects your own weakness and would be best if you go find a adult porn site to have your discussions in.
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Re: The War Is On: Obama’s Gestapo Arrest Catholic Priest Fo

Postby free_life2 » 02/ 20/ 12 5:06 pm

smallLliberal wrote:
virgey wrote:
Narrow Back wrote:
smallLliberal wrote:
bring in 25,000 priests from all over the USA and encircle the White House







The problem the RC Church had ... was the COVER UP!

This thread is not a about your belief that the RCC has covered up anything...get on topic now or you are done! Can I be more clear?



Go start a thread on the RCC if you want but stop hijacking this thread and the rest of you stop helping him.
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Postby Edward Kennedy » 02/ 20/ 12 6:12 pm

smallLliberal wrote:
Edward Kennedy wrote:
smallLliberal wrote:
Edward Kennedy wrote:The left has always hated any religion that teaches accountability and intyegrity because the left has none of either.



Jesus was farrrrrrrrr left for his days.

He would more likely be arrested protesting in front of banks than the White House ... at least the way I learned it.


Did you ever once think that the way you learned it is in essence the way you were told to think by the kool aid dispensers? Huh? :-k



you must have a different bible where Jesus is not kicking over the tables of the money changers?

money changers = the bankers of his day



Not at all, only you have it wrong as usual. He MADE a scourge and physiucally beat and threw the moneychangers out.

Now if you also read the whole thing you would see where pornography, fornication, child abuse and lying is wrong. But that would be stepping on your toes, would not it. :-k
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Re: The War Is On: Obama’s Gestapo Arrest Catholic Priest Fo

Postby Edward Kennedy » 02/ 20/ 12 6:15 pm

smallLliberal wrote:Connie, I am not bigoted against the RC Church or Catholics. I am just questioning their supposed moral superiority on the topics of sexuality.

I commend the Church and their members on endless amount of charity which runs into the 100's of billions of dollars .. perhaps trillions.. over the last few centuries. That is fantastic.

But I wont give them a pass for everything just because of that. And it does relate to this topic.

Actually small, I already proven you wrong on page 3 of this thread.



So the 100's of millions they have paid out in lawsuits is a mistake?

The first stage in fixing a problem ... is admitting you have a problem. I think the RC Church has admitted the problem in several nations now. Why you continue to deny it is beyond me.



...so when are you going to admit yours?
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Re: The War Is On: Obama’s Gestapo Arrest Catholic Priest Fo

Postby BlawBlaw » 02/ 20/ 12 7:09 pm

smallLliberal wrote:
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smallLliberal wrote:- the cover up .. if you can find a school board that actively covers up these horrible crimes then you would have a point.


The Quest scandal out of VSB comes to mind. It took 25 years to come to light.

I've read other news items where a teacher got passed around from school to school or board to board to make misconduct allegations go away quietly, but I don't have the links at my fingertips.


so you have 1 bad teacher story where the board was guilty of negligence

every town has a Priest story where the church is guilty of negligence


Actually, the total, USA wide, is something like 820 priests per year and 30,000 teachers per year. I'll get you the cite shortly.
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Postby BlawBlaw » 02/ 20/ 12 7:51 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charol_Shakeshaft

In 1994, Shakeshaft published a report based on a four-year study of 225 sexual abuse complaints—184 in New York State and 41 in other states—against teachers made to federal authorities from 1990 to 1994.[3] She found that "All of the accused admitted sexual abuse of a student, but none of the abusers was reported to the authorities, and only 1 percent lost their license to teach. Only 35 percent suffered negative consequences of any kind, and 39 percent chose to leave their school district, most with positive recommendations. Some were even given an early retirement package."

In 2004, Shakeshaft published Educator Sexual Misconduct: A Synthesis of Existing Literature for the United States Department of Education.[2] The report indicated that nearly 10% of U.S. public school students, or 4.5 million students, had been the victims of sexual harassment, rape or sexual abuse. The review described the prevalence of educator sexual misconduct, offender characteristics, targets of educator sexual misconduct, and recommendations for prevention of educator sexual misconduct.[2]
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According to a 2006 National Review Online opinion column republished by CBS News, Shakeshaft said that "... the physical sexual abuse of students in [public] schools is likely more than 100 times the abuse by [Catholic] priests."[4] She estimated that about 290,000 students were victimized between 1991 and 2000.[5]
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Postby styky » 03/ 15/ 12 12:46 pm

Catholic Bishops Say Fight Against White House Mandate Top Priority

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/cat ... story.html
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