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Postby The Devil's Advocate » 06/ 01/ 11 5:54 pm

Dogpatch wrote:
Misha wrote:They are parasites. The couple is likable and those aren't words I'd use if I were a public personality. But, come on, we're paying for their sojourn (yeah, yeah, I know, they're our soon to be heads of state and all that... and something about tourist dollars, which is a economically dubious). Nice couple. Historically important institution. Now, not so much.

I'm a lazy rebublican who can't be bothered to get mad. But the fact is the word choice was accurate. I challenge anyone to say it's verbally wrong to refer to them as parasites. They are.

That aside, I wish them well. It's likely harder to be them than it is to be me. But, the woman did choose the life....


How so?


One of this days, I'm going to get the shock of my life by going through the federal budget (There's one coming on Monday apparently) and read the line that says - Payment to the Queen & Phillip so there kids and grandkids don't have to work: $500 million.

(Yes I know, we pay for security when they deign to come for a visit, but those fancy red coats the RCMP wear don't dryclean themselves, and it's not like a President would be any cheaper -- just ask one of 2 or 3 dozen Americans that post on FD.)
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Postby Misha » 06/ 01/ 11 5:54 pm

How so as in how am I lazy rebublican? Or how so as in how can we not call them parasites?

The first bit: I'm a republican by sentiment. But I can't be bothered to care enough to join a group or do anything about it.

The second: I stand by what I said. They don't work. They don't do much. A bit degenerate... aside from the Queen who served us well in WWII. Yet, when she dies, what's left? Parasites. With nice hair cuts.
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Postby Misha » 06/ 01/ 11 5:59 pm

The Devil's Advocate wrote: One of this days, I'm going to get the shock of my life by going through the federal budget (There's one coming on Monday apparently) and read the line that says - Payment to the Queen & Phillip so there kids and grandkids don't have to work: $500 million.

(Yes I know, we pay for security when they deign to come for a visit, but those fancy red coats the RCMP wear don't dryclean themselves, and it's not like a President would be any cheaper -- just ask one of 2 or 3 dozen Americans that post on FD.)


True. That's why I'm a lazy republican. The budget line isn't much. But I'd rather elected representatives eat foie gras, which I don't want them to do on my dime. But, at least they're elected.
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Postby The Devil's Advocate » 06/ 01/ 11 6:05 pm

Misha wrote:
The Devil's Advocate wrote: One of this days, I'm going to get the shock of my life by going through the federal budget (There's one coming on Monday apparently) and read the line that says - Payment to the Queen & Phillip so there kids and grandkids don't have to work: $500 million.

(Yes I know, we pay for security when they deign to come for a visit, but those fancy red coats the RCMP wear don't dryclean themselves, and it's not like a President would be any cheaper -- just ask one of 2 or 3 dozen Americans that post on FD.)


True. That's why I'm a lazy republican. The budget line isn't much. But I'd rather elected representatives eat foie gras, which I don't want them to do on my dime. But, at least they're elected.


It's not just not much, it's not there at all.

And an elected eater doesn't make the goose liver any cheaper.
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Postby Misha » 06/ 01/ 11 6:08 pm

The Devil's Advocate wrote:It's not just not much, it's not there at all.

And an elected eater doesn't make the goose liver any cheaper.


Heh. That is clever. :) But yeah, there is a budget line. The GG... sojourns, Rideau Hall upkeep. And the visits cost.
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Postby BlawBlaw » 06/ 01/ 11 6:20 pm

The cost of the monarchy (or the paycheques of an MP, MLA, MPP, MNA or whatever you want to call them) is miniscule compared to the cost of a cadre of bureaucrats that are employed to run our government.

The public service members are the real parasites of our Dominion.
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Postby The Devil's Advocate » 06/ 01/ 11 6:31 pm

Misha wrote:
The Devil's Advocate wrote:It's not just not much, it's not there at all.

And an elected eater doesn't make the goose liver any cheaper.


Heh. That is clever. :) But yeah, there is a budget line. The GG... sojourns, Rideau Hall upkeep. And the visits cost.


You don't get rid of it by sending chopper boy and his blushing bride home, you simply change the description.
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Postby Dogpatch » 06/ 01/ 11 9:46 pm

The Devil's Advocate wrote:
Dogpatch wrote:
Misha wrote:They are parasites. The couple is likable and those aren't words I'd use if I were a public personality. But, come on, we're paying for their sojourn (yeah, yeah, I know, they're our soon to be heads of state and all that... and something about tourist dollars, which is a economically dubious). Nice couple. Historically important institution. Now, not so much.

I'm a lazy rebublican who can't be bothered to get mad. But the fact is the word choice was accurate. I challenge anyone to say it's verbally wrong to refer to them as parasites. They are.

That aside, I wish them well. It's likely harder to be them than it is to be me. But, the woman did choose the life....


How so?


One of this days, I'm going to get the shock of my life by going through the federal budget (There's one coming on Monday apparently) and read the line that says - Payment to the Queen & Phillip so there kids and grandkids don't have to work: $500 million.

(Yes I know, we pay for security when they deign to come for a visit, but those fancy red coats the RCMP wear don't dryclean themselves, and it's not like a President would be any cheaper -- just ask one of 2 or 3 dozen Americans that post on FD.)


Robert Finch has a favourite saying: "For the price of a cup of coffee, Canadians can enjoy the stability of the Crown." By this, the chief operating officer of the Monarchist League of Canada means that the monarchy costs Canadians only $1.53 per capita each year, about the price of a large cup of joe at Tim Hortons.

The Monarchist League estimates that about 50,147,000$ was spent during the 2006-07 year for supporting the monarchist framework. However, that includes the GG and the Queen's provincial representatives.

A cup of latté with your grievance?
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Postby BlawBlaw » 06/ 02/ 11 5:53 am

In a $1.6 trillion economy, the cost of the monarchy is miniscule. In a "republic" the money ends up spent on some demogogue to go trapesing about the country to cut ribbons and kiss babies.

In general, the royals are constitutional celebrities. I'm not sure if the TIFF gets any public money. Certainly, if we are going to defund a royal visit we should defund every gay pride event across the country.
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Postby RedDog » 06/ 02/ 11 6:00 am

For that matter, why can't these seemingly weekly now G8/G20 gatherings be on the net?
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Postby BlawBlaw » 06/ 02/ 11 6:36 am

RedDog wrote:For that matter, why can't these seemingly weekly now G8/G20 gatherings be on the net?


Lol. Set up a Facebook group for god's sake.
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Postby Fairwarning » 06/ 02/ 11 6:57 am

If it costs millions to continue ties with the monarchy and to keep a visible significant part of the history and foundation of my country.....then so be it.

It can't be any worse than the money thrown into multiculturalism, resettling of boat people, and the countless of other BS Ottawa funds.
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Re: Quebec MNA bristles at cost of welcoming ‘parasites’ Wil

Postby Angleland » 06/ 02/ 11 7:56 am

styky wrote:I guess this MNA has never heard of the <a href=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGt9jAkWie4>thumper principal
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Quebec MNA bristles at cost of welcoming ‘parasites’ Will and Kate
ANNA MEHLER PAPERNY
Globe and Mail Update
Published Tuesday, May. 31, 2011 1:19PM EDT
Last updated Tuesday, May. 31, 2011 1:30PM EDT
Not everyone in Canada is looking forward to hosting royal newlyweds.

“What a waste of public funds,” Amir Khadir, a Québec Solidaire member of the province’s National Assembly, said in an interview with the Journal de Québec on the upcoming tour of recently wedded Prince William and Kate.

“All this to welcome these parasites!”

Mr. Khadir, an outspoken politician whose remarks have put him in the spotlight before, deplored the expenditure of public funds on the couple’s visit – their first international foray since their wedding last month.

“If we were welcoming someone because he had extraordinary ideas or had done remarkable things, I’d like that,” the newspaper quotes him as saying. “But to do this with someone who has blue blood, whose sole merit is his ancestry, that bothers me.”

William and Kate plan to visit Montreal and Quebec City July 2 and 3, after spending Canada Day in Ottawa.

Quebec’s Minister of Foreign Relations and Minister of La Francophonie, Monique Gagnon-Tremblay, welcomed their visit, which is already garnering the attention of dozens of international journalists seeking accreditation for the tour. She said the province would cover part of the cost of their tour, although she didn’t specify the exact amount. She called the visit a chance to put the belle province on display.

But some groups have already planned anti-monarchist demonstrations for their brief Quebec visit: Réseau de résistance du Québécois and Société Saint-Jean-Baptiste have both planned to turn out. Hundreds of anti-monarchist protesters greeted Prince Charles during his 2009 visit to Quebec.

more - http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/pol ... le2041437/


So what is his compalin? Alberta is finsncing Quebec through eqalization so expenses of the Royal visit are bourne ultimately by Alberta taxpayers. This bozo can complain once Quebec renounces all equalization payments.
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Postby PoliticallyIncorrect » 06/ 02/ 11 8:28 am

Misha wrote:How so as in how am I lazy rebublican? Or how so as in how can we not call them parasites?

The first bit: I'm a republican by sentiment. But I can't be bothered to care enough to join a group or do anything about it.

The second: I stand by what I said. They don't work. They don't do much. A bit degenerate... aside from the Queen who served us well in WWII. Yet, when she dies, what's left? Parasites. With nice hair cuts.


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I believe an apology is in order!
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Postby chainrock » 06/ 02/ 11 10:54 am

Fairwarning wrote:If it costs millions to continue ties with the monarchy and to keep a visible significant part of the history and foundation of my country.....then so be it.

It can't be any worse than the money thrown into multiculturalism, resettling of boat people, and the countless of other BS Ottawa funds.


We could put in under foreigtn aid? :)
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