Maximum Disruption! Warman sues Conservative Blogosphere!

[Jetstream]

Hmmmmmm...a long dormant Dick thread revived by a newbie.
Nice try, don't bite guys.

Excuse me ... but are all 'newbies' suspect? If that's the case then the Warman's of this world have already won.

Indeed they have won the dubious distinction of causing suspicion for a 'newbie' whose first post is on a thread that's been dormant for 5 months.

Particularly when that thread concerns knowningly posting inciteful comments which might provoke actionable reactions leading to personal gain, and monitored by those whose political agenda is to bring censorship control into cyber-space.

Absent the atrocities to Canadian citizens already committed in the name of 'human rights' there wouldn't be this reaction, nor this thread...

I'm going to give you guys a little lesson on how a 'newbie' comes in, and perhaps a lesson on how to become larger than a group of people that seem to be limiting themselves to "preaching to the choir". If you treat every new person like this, you are utterly guaranteed to stay a little back-eddy on the river of real political influence.

1. I came over to this site on the recommendation of Ezra Levant.
2. I contacted Connie personally by email before I came on due to a 'technical difficulty' in signing up - and even gave her the name I would be posting under.
3. When you go to the 'Forum' this is at the top of the list. I read through the posts and made a comment that was legitimate and ... so what if it was an old thread ... placing it at the top of the list in the Forums guarantees that new people coming to this site will likely read it, and horror of horrors, they may even be concerned enough when they do to actually leave a post on the subject.
4. Finally, what in the world is so "knowingly inciteful" about my orginal post? If Warman is guilty of nuisance suits, then countersue! That's 'inciteful'? That's common sense, and probably the only way this silliness will ever get settled. I was willing to help this site owner financially to defend their position, and couldn't care less about someone knowing it. But if this is the mentality of the best defense of freedom out there, I'll look elsewhere.

I stand by my previous comment. Suspicion of everybody is a sign of living in a totalitarian society. And it means that the Richard Warmans and company of this world have already won the battle. I, for one, refuse to change liviing as a free citizen simply because some politically-correct idiots are threatening me as to what or what I cannot say.

I am sorely disappointed in this site. You can have it. Perhaps there is somewhere that there is enough openness that you can post without being automatically considered "one of them" until you jump through all your silly little hoops.

Have a good time, ladies and gentlemen. I wish you all well.

(And Mark and Connie, I am sorry I cannot support this "siege mentality" that can only speak up under pseudonyms and live in constant fear that a "troll" may be inciting me to do something bad everytime I read something from someone new.)

And for any of you that will sleep better, knowing who I am, here you go...

Jonathan Thomas

[goldhound]

Very high sounding and perhaps a logical reaction "Jonathan".......if you leave out the rather common expectation some have of starting at the top of the pile and being instantly believed and possibly even adored........
Thicken up your skin some and don't whine for respect, earn it. Petulant reactions to criticism will not cut it outside of grade school.

If the forum mods were sure you were completely legit and even known to them, they may still not advance your cause but would allow you to

[Connie Fournier]

I hope you don't really go, Jetstream.

Yes, we are paranoid right now. Did you know that our political opponents have a database of information that they are keeping on members of this site? If they think they have discovered the identity of one of our posters, they publish their names, pictures and addresses and then send out-of-context quotes to their employers, political associates, the media, the police, the CHRC and anyone else who might be able to cause them problems. Their goal is to utterly destroy everyone on this side of the debate.

What you are seeing here is post-traumatic stress from people who have been on the front lines for a couple of years. I feel terrible that this has happened, and I am sorry. But, I hope you will try to imagine what it is like to have unknown numbers of anonymous people working diligently every day to try to destroy your life and then imagine how mistrustful that would make you.

We need you you to forgive us and to stick around and fight with us. I hope you will consider it.

[Maikeru]

I'm going to give you guys a little lesson on how a 'newbie' comes in, and perhaps a lesson on how to become larger than a group of people that seem to be limiting themselves to "preaching to the choir". If you treat every new person like this, you are utterly guaranteed to stay a little back-eddy on the river of real political influence.

Gee, thanks.
If only you were a member when Jadewarr was examining the choir for discordant voices set to bring down the very pillars of society, FreeDominion might have joined the midstream of real political influence in this country alongside the many other conservative discussion forums in Canada.

In return, let me give you a lesson on reading into statements, due your own ego and insecurity, a meaning not intended by a keyboard comrade

You queried "what in the world is so "knowingly inciteful" about my orginal post?" in response to the comment "when that thread concerns knowningly posting inciteful comments which might provoke actionable reactions leading to personal gain"

The original comment was about 'maximum disruption' techniques employed by Pogue Mahone, a confidante of investigative personnel working on behalf of a government agency to find and prosecute folks whose personal opinions were deemed 'hateful', and thus punishable through quasi-judicial actions.

As well, folks in Canada whose views were determined by censorship bureaucrats to exemplify opinions which must be expunged from society by legislation were also subject to payment of funds to their accuser.

Over and above that, the same creep who joined 'back eddies' of political opinion to stir up reactions also monitored other 'back-eddies' of political opinion for 'defamatory' comments which could be construed by libel proceedings as worthy of massive compensation - regardless of the limited audience which might read them absent such actions.

You seem to expect that your original post would be automatically taken as an expression of 'solidarity', and when it wasn't that you're being hard done by in a forum comprised of folks with limited vision.

You want to leap right in and show those of lesser intellectual capacity how to do things right, and when confronted by anything less than immediate back-patting want to flounce off in search of the lost chord.

Grow a pair Jonathan.

[backhoe]

I hope you don't really go, Jetstream.

Yes, we are paranoid right now. Did you know that our political opponents have a database of information that they are keeping on members of this site? If they think they have discovered the identity of one of our posters, they publish their names, pictures and addresses and then send out-of-context quotes to their employers, political associates, the media, the police, the CHRC and anyone else who might be able to cause them problems. <B> Their goal is to utterly destroy everyone on this side of the debate.</b>

What you are seeing here is post-traumatic stress from people who have been on the front lines for a couple of years. I feel terrible that this has happened, and I am sorry. But, <B>I hope you will try to imagine what it is like to have unknown numbers of anonymous people working diligently every day to try to destroy your life</b> and then imagine how mistrustful that would make you.

We need you to forgive us and to stick around and fight with us. I hope you will consider it.

Precisely.

And one thing apparent to me since the beginnings of these troubles ( since I collect links & graphics, I do a lot of looking back at older posts ) is the startling falloff in participation on this site.

Many old, familiar names are simply absent or scared silent.

And when I describe this situation to my fellow Americans, they- like Ezra at first-- can't quite fathom it. We have difficulty wrapping our minds around the fact that an old friend and ally, a Western country based on English law, as we are, could slip so close to totalitarianism without a fight, without a whimper, or even most Canadians seeming to be aware of it or even care about it.

Now,<B> we</b> have our own Battle Royal, with <a href="http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2128550/posts">Zer0®</a> taking the helm- but as far as we can, and so far as we are able, we'll help you out.

[texasredtop]

I hope you don't really go, Jetstream.

Yes, we are paranoid right now. Did you know that our political opponents have a database of information that they are keeping on members of this site? If they think they have discovered the identity of one of our posters, they publish their names, pictures and addresses and then send out-of-context quotes to their employers, political associates, the media, the police, the CHRC and anyone else who might be able to cause them problems. <B> Their goal is to utterly destroy everyone on this side of the debate.</b>

What you are seeing here is post-traumatic stress from people who have been on the front lines for a couple of years. I feel terrible that this has happened, and I am sorry. But, <B>I hope you will try to imagine what it is like to have unknown numbers of anonymous people working diligently every day to try to destroy your life</b> and then imagine how mistrustful that would make you.

We need you to forgive us and to stick around and fight with us. I hope you will consider it.

Precisely.

And one thing apparent to me since the beginnings of these troubles ( since I collect links & graphics, I do a lot of looking back at older posts ) is the startling falloff in participation on this site.

Many old, familiar names are simply absent or scared silent.

And when I describe this situation to my fellow Americans, they- like Ezra at first-- can't quite fathom it. We have difficulty wrapping our minds around the fact that an old friend and ally, a Western country based on English law, as we are, could slip so close to totalitarianism without a fight, without a whimper, or even most Canadians seeming to be aware of it or even care about it.

Now,<B> we</b> have our own Battle Royal, with <a href="http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2128550/posts">Zer0®</a> taking the helm- but as far as we can, and so far as we are able, we'll help you out.

Yep, what backhoe said.

Jetstream, please forgive us for jumping to conclusions about you. You have to understand that dragging an old thread up like that coupled with being a new poster, had some of us believing you were here to stir up trouble. It's been done and now we are gun shy.

Please reconsider and if after you return, you find this is not the place for you, then so be it. Anyone that comes recommended by Connie must be a true conservative and there are many here that say they are and have no clue. The more examples of true conservatism there are, the better.

Whatever your decision, thanks for taking your time to post here.

[free_life2]

Hmmmmm thread back from the dead..........I smell fresh meat...........com'on lets all sing kumbya now!


You guys test driving a newbie again?

Stick around Jetboy, you can't win if you don't buy a ticket......you'll love us in no time..........

[texasredtop]

Hmmmmm thread back from the dead..........I smell fresh meat...........com'on lets all sing kumbya now!


You guys test driving a newbie again?

Stick around Jetboy, you can't win if you don't buy a ticket......you'll love us in no time..........

I wonder if Jetstream could just consider this his initiation?

[Angleland]

Charles White is constantly hauling old threads out of the archives. It's unfortunate things got complicated here but people are on edge.

[Narrow Back]

Hmmmmm thread back from the dead..........I smell fresh meat...........com'on lets all sing kumbya now!


You guys test driving a newbie again?

Stick around Jetboy, you can't win if you don't buy a ticket......you'll love us in no time..........

I wonder if Jetstream could just consider this his initiation?

Speaking of baptism by fire, have a look at my first posts.

Welcome to Free Dominion.

[texasredtop]

Hmmmmm thread back from the dead..........I smell fresh meat...........com'on lets all sing kumbya now!


You guys test driving a newbie again?

Stick around Jetboy, you can't win if you don't buy a ticket......you'll love us in no time..........

I wonder if Jetstream could just consider this his initiation?

Speaking of baptism by fire, have a look at my first posts.

Welcome to Free Dominion.

I had no such problem coming here. The timing of things for others joining has caused everyone to be on alert. That's very sad. Have they won already?

[Narrow Back]

Hmmmmm thread back from the dead..........I smell fresh meat...........com'on lets all sing kumbya now!


You guys test driving a newbie again?

Stick around Jetboy, you can't win if you don't buy a ticket......you'll love us in no time..........

I wonder if Jetstream could just consider this his initiation?

Speaking of baptism by fire, have a look at my first posts.

Welcome to Free Dominion.

I had no such problem coming here. The timing of things for others joining has caused everyone to be on alert. That's very sad. Have they won already?

Have they won? Absolutely not. "That which does not kill me, only serves to make me stronger."

This is only round 2. We have a very long way to go before we know who wins.

Ding ding. Let's go.

[madman]

so are you the JT who:

- was the voice of Simba?
- Related to stonewall Jackson
- professor of Economics from the UK
- Columbia universituy student and Actor
- Math professor from Edinburgh
- welsh Rugby player

[Jetstream]

I've communicated with Connie (email), and I think I understand where many of you are coming from, but the reactions here - warranted as they may be are somewhat frightening. I am more positive than ever, that the way to win is face the foe head on. I see over on Ezra Levant's blog that it has been suggested countersuits as the way to go. That goes on all the time in the legal world. I just thought it was a good enough idea. Personally, I can't think of any pro-RW person that would advise that!

I also was not as aware as I should be as to how nervous this has made so many who are speaking out. I guess that was something my parents instilled in me. Never, never barter conscience for any price.

It was not my intention to bring an offense here, but it was my full intention to move the discussion in a direction that might stir others up to move on this matter.

So ... I'll read ... digest ... and do my part under my own name on my own blog, and here as well. But I do think that the blogosphere has some severe limitations. This whole experience being just one of them.

[Connie Fournier]

It's true, Jetstream. When someone is posting in an internet forum, we can't see their expressions or hear their voices. It is very difficult to tell if they are real.

In fact, some of the CHRC investigators have even used woman's identities to try to trick their targets into saying things that are incriminating.

We've talked about countersuits in the past, but it always comes down to what point of law we could go after them on.

Certainly some of them are guilty of criminal harassment and cyberstalking!

I'm glad you came back. Take it from Narrowback...we aren't mean once you get to know us.