Vote conservative, not Tory!

[Frankie]

I think the FCP will be well represented this time out.
When you've been lied to left & right it's time to go back to the basics.
If voting my conscience cost either liberal or conservative a victory I could care less. I sleep better at night & I didn't have to even consider the NDP.

[Felix Culpa]

Check out the <a href=http://www.familycoalitionparty.com/ctable.htm>fine slate of candidates</a> the FCP has to offer!

I think there are more to come. There are at least 4 more candidates that I know of that aren't listed there.

Good! as of my last accessing of the website, it was listing 67 candidates in 107 ridings = 63% coverage. Another 4 would bring that up to 66% coverage. Not bad!

[Retired_can_soldier]

So paying full price for a piece of shit car is better?

If Dalton's policies are so crappy, why isn't John Tory advocating something different?

You may as well vote Liberal and by choosing such a path you are.

You sound like a teenager having a temper tantrum because mommy and daddy won't buy you a $400 dress for the prom.

As most of the regulars can attest, we've gotten past this attempt at electoral blackmail by the "PC party, right or wrong" crowd.

In short, the blame lay with those within the PC party who have not given a credible alternative [read: conservative] for whom to vote.

Put another way, it's up to the PC party to earn my vote.

Nope no tantrum here. Frustration with folks who can't see past their own agenda's and get the big picture.

What is being proposed here is on the same level of intelligence as Jack Layton voting against a motion to bring the troops home in 2009 because he wants them home now.

Now that sounds like a temper tantrum.

You want Dalton, you'll get him. I just can't wait for the hypocrisy and bitching when he starts raising taxes and pissing everyone off. You have in essence relinquished your vote therefore you have also relinquished your opinion.

As for teaching Tory a lesson. Give me a break.

Get over yourself

[Jason Kauppinen]

So paying full price for a piece of shit car is better?

Nope I'm not voting for Dalton either.

THE PROBLEM that you people don't seem to get is that this:

You may as well vote Liberal and by choosing such a path you are.

Is the same result as voting for John Tory.

So you can whine and complain all you want. Liberal leaders aren't getting my support--it doesn't matter if they wear a blue tie or a red tie.

If compromise is your main value then you should have had no problem compromising totally by supporting Flaherty or another real conservative as party leader.

Then people like me who demand substance over garbage like "I'm John Tory and I display leadership" crap would have supported the OPC.

But that's fine, we'll kick him out after he loses.

[Jason Kauppinen]

You want Dalton, you'll get him.

If I don't want Dalton why would I vote for Tory. He's identical.

Basically you can't give us a reason to support Tory. Because to earn that support he would have to be a real conservative and actually support conservative policies. He does not.

And the real telling thing about this thread is that you've posted NOTHING to counter this fact--yet demand that Tory should get our support anyhow because of big bad Dalton.

The fact is, John Tory simply will not deliver conservative policy.

[Retired_can_soldier]

So who do you want then? By the way I'm not whining, but excellent assumption on your part. Funny how folks get their back up when you point out the obvious flaw in their reasoning.

No point beating this dog. It's already dead.

[Felix Culpa]

So who do you want then? By the way I'm not whining, but excellent assumption on your part. Funny how folks get their back up when you point out the obvious flaw in their reasoning.

No point beating this dog. It's already dead.

Dunno 'bout you, but I want the FCP policy platform. That's why I am voting for them.

[GratianGasparri]

Nope no tantrum here. Frustration with folks who can't see past their own agenda's and get the big picture.

And how is John Tory any different than Dalton McGuinty in the big picture?

You want Dalton, you'll get him.

And if you want Tory, it's up to you to get him.

Personally, I don't see the difference. But to each his own.

[GratianGasparri]

So who do you want then?

A conservative.

[Dacre]

Retired writes

So who do you want then? By the way I'm not whining, but excellent assumption on your part. Funny how folks get their back up when you point out the obvious flaw in their reasoning.

Sorry but I think you have the flawed reasoning. This sounds like a broken record but obviously you don't understand the logic. Just because the OPC has Conservative in its name does not make it conservative. John Tory wanted to throw all the true conservatives overboard because he is a liberal and chose to appeal to Toronto and the urban voter with a socially progressive agenda. The man basically agrees with the Liberals agenda and just claims he can do it better than Dalton. Great consolation that is. John Tory and his ilk loathe social conservatives and makes that clear. John Tory loathes the Mike Harris legacy. John Tory decided to go for a particular constituency believing that was his ticket for success. I think it was a mistake and he was wrong. The election will give us the result of this decision. Why would conservatives want to support a party that doesn't support them. You must be a liberal yourself if you can't understand this.

[Fabulous Fred]

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[Jason Kauppinen]

So who do you want then? By the way I'm not whining, but excellent assumption on your part. Funny how folks get their back up when you point out the obvious flaw in their reasoning.

Yeah it's just as valid a line of reasoning as demanding support for a Liberal instead of a Liberal eh?

I want Tory out as leader and a real conservative in.

I want the Progressive name dropped from the OPC.

I want policy determined by delegates at a convention instead of this undemocratic "consultation" crap.

For starters.

[fourhorses]

Check out the <a href=http://www.familycoalitionparty.com/ctable.htm>fine slate of candidates</a> the FCP has to offer!

How do you know they are fine ?

[SUZANNE]

Because she knows some of them

[fourhorses]

Because she knows some of them

I looked up the candidate in my riding (Mississauga-Streetsville) - Never heard of him. No presence noticed hereabouts.

Has a lot of ground to cover to catch the libs and torries