10 Reasons Harper will beat the NDP

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Re: 10 Reasons Harper will beat the NDP

Postby FiscalConservative » 08/ 03/ 12 6:20 pm

Connie Fournier wrote:My concern, Smaug, is that Harper is trying to enact legislation that will be dangerous to our internet freedom. If that happens, we will be silenced and the chances of us ever electing a real conservative will be over.


This, a thousand times this. This current government's obsession with controlling the flow of information, any information is the greatest evidence we have that this government is not conservative but autocratic. They will do what they want, when they want, and there isn't anything any Canadian can do about it. This includes crapping all over our rights and freedoms when they feel it's necessary.
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Re: 10 Reasons Harper will beat the NDP

Postby Hodgson » 08/ 03/ 12 8:57 pm

Whatever. They need to run a tight ship in a liberal frame.
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Re: 10 Reasons Harper will beat the NDP

Postby Hodgson » 08/ 03/ 12 8:58 pm

Connie Fournier wrote:
Hodgson wrote:Don't worry.


I don't worry. I act.


Good!
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Re: 10 Reasons Harper will beat the NDP

Postby Smaug » 08/ 03/ 12 11:45 pm

Hodgson wrote:Whatever. They need to run a tight ship in a liberal frame.



Their goal is to rehabilitate the conservative party brand. I get that.

Canada is not now a conservative nation, nor will it become one as the result of a single election. However, conservatism can become the norm just as easily as socialism became the norm and in the same manner.
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Re: 10 Reasons Harper will beat the NDP

Postby Soulforger » 08/ 04/ 12 11:23 am

Hodgson wrote:Whatever. They need to run a tight ship in a liberal frame.


](*,)

How is anything Liberal in Ottawa?

The NDP is the official opposition and Harper has a majority. Harper also appointed himself a majority in the Senate.
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Re: 10 Reasons Harper will beat the NDP

Postby Hodgson » 08/ 04/ 12 7:45 pm

Not Liberal..."liberal".

(Leftist, statist, union loving, socialism hugging, left wingers)
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Re: 10 Reasons Harper will beat the NDP

Postby LAR » 08/ 04/ 12 7:48 pm

Hodgson wrote:Not Liberal..."liberal".

(Leftist, statist, union loving, socialism hugging, left wingers)


They prefer 'progressive"
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Re: 10 Reasons Harper will beat the NDP

Postby skeena484 » 08/ 04/ 12 10:56 pm

Connie Fournier wrote:
Hodgson wrote:Don't worry.


I don't worry. I act.


Federal politics will continue to mimic Alberta’s politics. The PROGRESSIVE/conservative party of Alberta has been successfully overtaken by liberals. The Conservative party of Canada under the leadership of Stephen Harper has allowed the left to take the reigns of leadership on the federal level. The same could be said for Ontario, Nova Scotia and of course we all know that the Liberal party in British Columbia are the closest thing they will ever come to electing a government with anything close to conservative values. Who would have thought five years ago that the Province of Saskatchewan would elect the most conservative provicial government in Canada.

As for Quebec well we all know where that is going to go.

Connie I act too but I do worry.
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Re: 10 Reasons Harper will beat the NDP

Postby Hodgson » 08/ 18/ 12 12:49 pm

The CPC has Harper, Kenneyy, Baird, Anders, Bernier, Toth....

These guys are pretty far from liberal.
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Re: 10 Reasons Harper will beat the NDP

Postby Faramir » 08/ 19/ 12 12:03 pm

Canada has only had good governance on a relative scale. It's like calling theft at Walmart small in scale to big time Madoff scaled theft. Harper has managed to add massively to the debt.

Sadly the window to act like conservatives is closing. The only way the CPC can beat the NDP in the future is to move even further left to keep voters.
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Re: 10 Reasons Harper will beat the NDP

Postby Soulforger » 08/ 19/ 12 1:01 pm

Faramir wrote:Canada has only had good governance on a relative scale. It's like calling theft at Walmart small in scale to big time Madoff scaled theft. Harper has managed to add massively to the debt.

Sadly the window to act like conservatives is closing. The only way the CPC can beat the NDP in the future is to move even further left to keep voters.



I agree with your concerns, we need to balance the budget.
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Re: 10 Reasons Harper will beat the NDP

Postby Hodgson » 08/ 19/ 12 3:00 pm

It's happening. Point #5 explains the situation.
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Re: 10 Reasons Harper will beat the NDP

Postby Soulforger » 08/ 19/ 12 4:44 pm

Hodgson wrote:It's happening. Point #5 explains the situation.


I will wait til they actually do it...
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Re: 10 Reasons Harper will beat the NDP

Postby Hodgson » 08/ 19/ 12 5:01 pm

It's already been cut in half.
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Re: 10 Reasons Harper will beat the NDP

Postby Maikeru » 08/ 19/ 12 5:28 pm

Connie Fournier wrote:It was Conservative "strategy" that put them where they are today. They used "not a leader" attack ads on the Liberal leadership and crushed their electoral support, but, instead of providing a positive alternative for those ex-Liberal voters, they drove them all into the arms of the NDP.
There's no denying that Stephen Harper is an honourable Canadian, a great politician, and arguably the best Prime Minister to down the pike since John A. Macdonald - in no small part due to his long commitment (27 years total - 19 years since first being elected an MP) to the Canadian political arena.

He has morphed from Liberal (high school) to Progressive Conservative(1985) to Reform(1987) to Alliance(2001) before leading the newly minted CPC(2004) to two terms of minority governance(2006-2011) - and finally to the current majority government.

By way of contrast, the Right Honourable Pierre Trudeau morphed from Assistant Law Professor critical of Liberal Party policies, to Canadian Prime Minister, in 30 months.
In his opening speech to the Liberal Convention which elected him as PM, he declared that Canada must be a 'Just' and 'Progressive' society - the clear implication being that it wasn't before he ascended to the PMO.

Now that the giddy throngs of Trudeaumaniacs have grown up, and the state has business in every crevice of the nation except the bedroom, 'Just and Progressive' has been revealed as just another catchphrase along the lines of 'Hope and Change'.

Those Liberals 'driven into the arms of the NDP' were simply more pragmatic than those who actually voted NDP, and who, as the Liberal Party crumbled under it's own increasingly 'progressive' policies, took to the port-side lifeboats.

Those who shifted political alliance leftward would and will never vote for any party affiliated with the word 'conservative', which is a perjorative in newspeak.

Oddly enough, the downstream impact of the socially 'un-conservative' policies of Canadian governors, which gave rise to 'multi-culturalism' and 'human rights', has had the unintended consequence of increasing the impact of those cultural communities with the most 'conservative' cultural qualities.

Hence the increasing support for Mr. Harper as Prime Minister reflects of the increasingly 'conservative' mix of Canadians who value the conservative tenets of their own 'culture' over those who posit that all cultures are 'equal' .

Unlike America, which is in a state of poo-poo ka-ka due to the 'melting pot' society there jailing potheads and melting mortgages, Canadians are more akin to New Zealanders, who ran out of socialism when they ran out of the ability to fund both a roof over their heads, and the kiddies to house therein.

New Zealand is a pair of islands, and has become more akin to Japan than birth-mother Britain in terms of xenophobic 'man-on-the-street' attitudes. They are benignly 'national-socialist', similar to Quebec but without the history of ethnic cleansing which disgraces that préfecture.

Canadians are unique in the world, being in possession of more potential wealth per capita than anywhere except, perhaps, Saudi Arabia - which is dependent on oil, dates, and Mecca for income.

Unfortunately, Canadians are largely concentrated in major cities, which fosters a 'strata-council' mentality wherein the lack of constitutional property rights leads to a condition whereby the squeaky wheels get the grease, while the quiet and complacent get the shaft.
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